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02/10/2005

Nipple freakishly implacable antipathy

Whoever came up with the term "nipple confusion" is a fool. Charlie's not confused; he is a baby of rare discrimination who knows exactly what he wants. He doesn't have nipple confusion. He has nipple preference. Nipple aversion. Nipple seething white-hot hatred, if you really want the truth.

We dislike breastfeeding, Charlie and I.

We started out in the NICU with the make-a-nipple-sandwich method, which involves jamming a big fistful of areola into a defenseless baby's mouth, stuffing him into muteness as if you didn't want him squealin' to the cops, see?! With this method he'd latch briefly, give three strong sucks, then look bewildered. I'd remove my nipple from his mouth and start all over again. "He'll get it," promised the flaky hospital LC, in between fits of crooning, "There you go, mama. C'mon, baby. Mmmmmama," as if she were a white, female, sub-moronic Isaac Hayes.

NippleshieldWhen I told the local lactation consultant about this, she rolled her eyes so hard they clacked in their sockets. When they finally rolled to a halt, she broke out a nipple shield, a clear silicone sombrero that comes to a point so emphatic I feared I'd put out one of Charlie's eyes with it. It fits directly over your naked nipple and is used to make it easier for the baby to draw the nipple into his mouth; it's especially helpful for babies with a suboptimal latch or suck and for women with suboptimal anatomy. That would be Charlie, and that would be me.

We tried it, and it seemed to go well. The local consultant watched Charlie and me together and pronounced herself well pleased. "He'll get it," she declared, and sent us off to work on it together with instructions to try at every feeding with plenty of skin-to-skin contact.

And then I had houseguests for ten days straight.

I was able to slip away to pump; at the beginning of the visit I was discreet, disappearing without warning, but by the end I was bellowing, "Gotta pump!" as I trudged up the stairs yet again. Although the guests were family members, I was too uncomfortable to spend time with them naked from the waist up, coaxing a screaming reluctant baby onto my sombreroed nipple.

They weren't even out of the driveway before I'd stripped and presented my plastic prosthetic once again to Charlie. But by that time, his initial goodwill had turned to rancor. He'd open obediently and allow me to draw him aggressively onto my breast, and he'd take a few experimental sucks. But when no milk was immediately forthcoming, he would scream.

And scream.

I'd wait for him to calm down, give him a few milliliters from a bottle, and then try again. And he would scream the scream of the thwarted, the betrayed, the milkless, the pissed.

Now here is where we talk about the letdown reflex, or milk ejection reflex. It's this that causes some women's breasts to leak when they hear their baby cry, and what some women feel as a tingling that precedes a gush of milk. Apparently it's a conditioned reflex that can be inhibited by pain, anxiety, or negative feedback. You know, like the pain of sore nipples being relentlessly hoovered into a mechanical pump, or the anxiety of watching your supply diminish, or the negative feedback of, oh, I don't know, a baby yelling in fury when you're not delivering the goods fast enough.

My letdown, friends, is for shit. So Charlie would give a few healthy pulls, get no milk, and then scream. I can't entirely blame him. Having been bottle-fed for the first ten weeks of his life, he had no patience whatsoever for meals served in a less expeditious fashion. If the nipple of a bottle — even a slow-flow nipple — is a McDonald's drinking straw, my nipples are those whisper-thin coffee stirrers. Now how would you rather drink your milkshake?

A classic case of nipple confusion. But Charlie is not confused. He simply hates my breasts.

I called the local lactation consultant, a mother of a preemie herself, and explained the situation. She sighed. She said, "Well, you can work on it. You can do more skin-to-skin, and you can continue to try. Or" — and here is where I burst into grateful tears — "you can just enjoy your baby."

I needed that permission, thinking, If a hardcore breastfeeding advocate says it's okay to stop, it must really be okay to stop. I've been working very hard for the last ten weeks. I am ready for something to be easy, for feedings to be pleasant and amicable. I'm tired of trying, and desperate to stop being a special case, to stop having to work so much harder than almost everyone at something that should come more or less naturally. I am not going to try anymore.

That said, I'm still pumping. In fact, I'm committed to doing so at least until Charlie hits twelve weeks. I've heard that at twelve weeks a baby has received about 60% of his mother's antibodies, with the rest accruing only gradually thereafter. (I was not able to find a citation for that figure, but it pleases me so I embrace it.) It's important to me to give him that much, especially during RSV season.

Beyond that arbitrary milestone, I don't know how long I'll keep it up; a lot depends on how well I'm able to build and maintain my waning milk supply. To that end, I'm already pumping so frequently I don't know night from day, guzzling so much Guinness I smell like a brewery, and popping so much fenugreek I smell like a mapley brewery. I've also ordered domperidone without a prescription from a shady overseas pharmacy, and will frantically swallow it in giant handfuls immediately upon its arrival.

After that, we shall see. I will report back, unless I'm too busy enjoying my baby. Or slowly decomposing in a drawer in the morgue, a sad cautionary tale against ingesting controlled substances acquired from fly-by-night charlatans somewhere in the South Pacific.

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Comments (135)

HA HA HA! I AM FIRST! I AM FIRST!

On the subject of your breasts, I have nothing to say, other than: hubba hubba.

Posted by: getupgrrl at Feb 10, 2005 7:20:44 PM

I, too, am an ardent breastfeeding advocate. But, with all that you have been through, i would only enthusiastically second the last LC's thought: enjoy that baby. Enjoy all that it has taken you so long to gain. Pump as long as you possibly can, but just love on your kid and relax. He'll be fed, he'll bond with you has you hold him (actually a lot of adoptive mothers feed their little ones with a bottle in a sling very tightly, doing the skin/skin thing only wiht a bottle). He'll be happy and content, and even more so as mama becomes more happy and content. More power to you, whatever you choose.

Posted by: lydia at Feb 10, 2005 7:25:39 PM

well i know how you feel. my kiddo only had bottle for 4 weeks, but still hates my nipples. and i've used the exact same shield as in the photo above, the fenugreek and domperidone. i have only a little good advice. take blessed thistle with the fenugreek and domperidone. i'm sure you know the amounts already. that domperidone really does do the trick - your milk will overwhelm you. and then one last sage piece of advice if you don't want to quit (but really - i'm not trying to convince you one way or another - i'm almost done with it all, too). Take one of those little syringes that the LC can give you, fill it with breastmilk, inject it into the nipple holed and then latch the little boy on. He'll get a mouthful of milk and be a little satisified until he can get your milk to come down. just some unsolicited advice from me. enjoy it either way - it's all good.

Posted by: afrindiemum at Feb 10, 2005 7:34:05 PM

Those plastic nipple shields are cool... very inter-galactic-warrior-princess-like.

Maybe you can wear them out under a tight sweater for that AROUSED look.

Seriously, I hope things improve in the nipple dept.

Posted by: Jen/VintageUterus at Feb 10, 2005 7:37:18 PM

Just an idea if you want to take it...
Pump a little before trying to feed Charlie, so the milk has already let down. Then with his first suck he will get milk. I tried this approach with my son who was overwhelmed by my let down - I would pump the intitial gush and then he was happy.
Whatever you decide you are doing a great job!

Posted by: Cindy at Feb 10, 2005 7:39:25 PM

I second the Enjoyment bit. Whichever way, it's abt time and fully deserved by all involved.

Posted by: Lioness at Feb 10, 2005 7:47:16 PM

I'm having trouble writing this as I am hunched over the keyboard with sympathy nipple pains.

Added bonus of the domperidone: it will take care of that knife-in-the-gut anxiety pain.

And thanks for not blaming Canada for the sub-standard drugs! :)

Posted by: jc at Feb 10, 2005 7:49:05 PM

The one thought I had when reading this post was "Breast Feeding; Your Mileage May Vary." I think Charlie needs a happy MOM most of all.

Posted by: MamaPajama at Feb 10, 2005 7:53:51 PM

Julie,
Just remember happy mom= happy baby. You're doing great. I set goals for myself after a bumpy start to nursing and managed to make it to 9 months little by little. I'm sure you have this little gadget but what about using the supplemental nursing system (SNS) with EBM so he gets the best of both, being at your breast and a hefty reward for sucking. You may only need to try it for a short while. Just a thought (hopefully not assvice). Good luck.

Posted by: Lindsay at Feb 10, 2005 8:03:58 PM

i am very pro-breastfeeding, but i am also pro-mama, and ultimately i have faith that you will figure out whatever works best for you and for charlie.

i linked to our story of breastfeeding. in the end, we're still nursing and supplementing with formula nine months later. i don't pump because i don't like to make myself cry. NC gets to share in the feeding, which he loves, and i don't beat myself up over my body's continued inability to do precisely what i hear it's supposed to do.

Posted by: wix at Feb 10, 2005 8:08:43 PM

Just for the record, I've been enjoying your baby since before he was even born.

Posted by: Deborah at Feb 10, 2005 8:10:07 PM

You sound like you're at peace with your decision and situation, which is more important than anything, as far as I'm concerned. Happy mom, happy baby, happy family. No regrets. I am an ardent breastfeeding advocate, but what that mostly means to me is that mothers should get as much emotional and practical support as they need for as long as they want.

That said, I'm with afrindiemum & Cindy above that given that so much of the problem is Charlie's frustration at the breast, I'm surprised that neither of your LCs has suggested a technique (syringes, SNS, or just your fingers) to drip or squirt milk into his mouth during nursing attempts and thereby deliver an instant gratification reward for Charlie's every effort.

But if you are done, you are done. And you have an end in sight to the awful, awful pumping, yay!

Posted by: Veronica at Feb 10, 2005 8:11:18 PM

Julie,

Just writing to say how proud I am of you. I had similar breastfeeding woes, not because of prematurity, but because of my breast reduction. I, to, ordered domperidone from far far away. It really helped my supply. If you ever want more info on my experience feel free to write me anytime. My daughter is 6 months old and I was able to provide about a third of her diet in breastmilk until she was almost 5 months old, when I had to go back to work. Now we nurse at night for comfort. It's great that you got such good advice from that LC. I used the SNS, with not a ton of luck, but I am happy to talk about that too.

take care!

Posted by: Murray, mom to Maggie at Feb 10, 2005 8:13:13 PM

I've been lurking for awhile and just had to toss in my support. My DS was fully baked (at over 10lbs), but still spent 4 days in NICU hell where the nurses completely f'd our chances to successfully breastfeed. I spent oodles on lactation consultants, I used the nipple shield like you show, I finger fed, I used the SNS, I syringe fed and in the end, I pumped and bottle fed for 6 months. Six LONG months. All this after I had successfully nursed my eldest for 13 months. While I strongly believe in the benefits of breastmilk, a happy and relaxed mom is also very important. You deserve a break today. Pump while you can keep it up, but if it gets to be too much, lose the guilt. Every bit counts and it's high time you do start to enjoy Charlie. Keep up the awesome work!

Posted by: Been there! at Feb 10, 2005 8:32:38 PM

Great entry, Julie. I nursed my son for five horrible weeks, till I had to go back to work. When my daughter was born I decided I needed to enjoy my baby and so I chose to bottle feed. It was a much happier maternity leave. I could finally enjoy my baby...and so could my husband. When my sister had her baby, she struggled and struggled until finally giving up in a heap of tears and relief. THEN she began to enjoy her child.

Posted by: Karen at Feb 10, 2005 8:54:20 PM

Heh... I had the opposite problem. Mine demanded real in-the-flesh nipples, and my supply sucked ass. Domperidone really helped, I did make it all the way to 6 months (after the domperidone intervention) but it was hard.

Posted by: wookie at Feb 10, 2005 8:56:23 PM

Been there. Done that. It was awful. I feel for you, and I wish you peace with your decision!

-S

PS I never understood this "letdown reflex" thing either. I mean, intellectually I got it, but it never ever ever happened to me. Nothing even f*cking close. I was lucky to pump an ounce at a time.

Posted by: Shelley at Feb 10, 2005 9:04:33 PM

I'm a hardcore Julie advocate. And I like this plan.

(Also, the FDA can fuck itself in the ear with regard to the domperidone ban. Seriously sketchy science behind that one. You enjoy your Kiwi pharmaceuticals. I'd take it in a heartbeat.)

Posted by: Jo at Feb 10, 2005 9:07:54 PM

I pumped for 8 months. It is an option.

My son was impossible to feed and my nips were impossible to use, until I pumped for 8 months and now they poke like nobody's business :)

(Too bad for SIF - I really want to use the proper nips.)

Posted by: Cricket at Feb 10, 2005 9:35:05 PM

damn i didn't know about that domperidone stuff, wish i had known before i quit breast feeding. i think you are doing great julie, and charlie is cute as a button, hope everything works out for you.

Posted by: me at Feb 10, 2005 9:42:13 PM

Hey, woman. As it is you have been through the mill several dozen times and the fact that you are still giving him breastmilk is pretty damn impressive to me. Time to do the happy mommy = happy baby thing.

Oh, and there ought to be a law against anyone to whom you are not sufficiently close to bare your naked boobies staying in your home for the first six months of a baby's life - ADJUSTED for prematurity. If I ever make it past my Senate confirmation hearing it will be the first piece of legislation I introduce.

Posted by: Amyesq at Feb 10, 2005 9:54:21 PM

Delurking to say that domperidone was wonderful for my supply. I saw results fairly quickly. You may want to consider renting a medela symphony pump....very comfy and efficient.

Good luck on whatever your decision....enjoy your baby!

Posted by: corky at Feb 10, 2005 10:22:44 PM

Julie, I think you are doing the right thing and you are being a great Mom. The second LC knows what she is talking about. Don't let anyone tell you different! Just remember what Dooce taught us, put cabbage leaves in your bra to ease that pain when you stop pumping and are waiting for your milk to dry up.

Posted by: kim at Feb 10, 2005 10:23:40 PM

You didn't ask for anything, assvice, nothing. But I have 4 yard apes, 2 I nursed, 2 I bottlefed. No difference in bonding or health of the babies. I agree breast is best, but bottle is 99.9% fine. Take whatever stress you can out of your life. Life is too short. Figure out other ways to torture Charlie. Move on from the tit sandwich.

Posted by: Lisa at Feb 10, 2005 10:33:17 PM

BFing was the hardest part of having a newborn for me - once I moved on we were all so much happier. Do whatever works for you and Charlie.

Posted by: Janice at Feb 10, 2005 10:51:41 PM

Who'd have thought that a lactation consultant would leave you crying grateful tears, eh?

Hope the dom perignon, I mean, domperidone gets you to 12 weeks with greater ease for all involved. You deserve an effing break, you know?

Posted by: Boulder at Feb 10, 2005 10:54:20 PM

My daughter was formula-fed - crappy, sugar-filled Chinese formula-fed for the first year of her life - and she's lovely and wonderful. Me, I breastfed for three and a half years, and I'm no great shakes. So, hey. Enjoy that baby!

Posted by: Brooklyn Mama at Feb 10, 2005 11:00:45 PM

I'm sorry. Sorry everything conspired to make this so difficult and crappy for you, and that your houseguests stayed for 10 days(!) at the home of people with a preemie(!).

I just wish everything could be easy for you for at least 10 minutes in a row.

And while you're waiting for the domperidone, oatmeal increases supply, for some unknown reason.

Posted by: Moxie at Feb 10, 2005 11:13:57 PM

Nipple shields rock. I had a two babies with freakishly high palates and couldn't get enough of my, what were at the time, freakishly large nipples into their screaming newborn mouths. The shield helped immensely.

With my third (a 4 week preemie, no less), her palate was fine - she just hated my nipples. I tried desperately to breastfeed with her - crying, pleading, cursing, bargaining, etc. To no avail. I had tried it all, nothing was working and people close to me were starting to worry about my mental health. My mother was the one that finally said, "You tried. You really tried. It isn't working. She isn't doing well, you aren't doing well and she is only going to be this age once. Give me a bottle for her and go take a nap."

I did.

Posted by: Redneck Diva at Feb 10, 2005 11:15:33 PM

Okay, consider this ONLY of you really want to continue to try to nurse. I had an "epidural headache" and was on painkillers the first few days after my son was born. When it was safe to nurse I found that my son was far too used to the ease of the bottle, and I could not get any milk production by pumping. A very patient pediatrician suggested this: there are special bottles called "supplementers" (http://www.askdrsears.com/html/2/T026000.asp)which look like a combination of an IV bottle and a baby bottle, with a thin tube attached to the nipple end. Fill the bottle with pumped milk, and tape the tip of the tube to your nipple. (I had one inch lengths of medical tape all over the house.) The baby is getting the flow of the bottle, and is also getting used to the breast. Less frustration for both, although it does take some time to learn to line up the tube to the tip of the nipple. It took my son about a week or two to make the transition to just the breast. Just a suggestion, and strictly for you if nursing is what you really want. Good luck to you, and enjoy your miracle!

Posted by: Susan at Feb 10, 2005 11:23:51 PM

My son was born at 35 weeks, and from the beginning we had a lot of trouble breastfeeding. He was never, ever like my friend's babies, who would latch right on and go to town. And you know what? He STILL doesn't eat like that at almost 3 years old.

I also wanted to encourage you, because I know that there is so out there that goes on and on about the incredible bonding that happens when you breastfeed versus when you bottle feed ... I did both and I have to say that in my experience there was NO difference. I felt just as much love and just as close to my son when I was feeding him formula out of a bottle as I did breastfeeding him. And for the same reasons as Charlie, our little one was definitely MUCH more happy with the bottle. Just thought I'd put that out there. Enjoy your baby!

Posted by: Rebekah at Feb 10, 2005 11:25:00 PM

Julie -

I am a very big BF advocate. But first and foremost - it needs to be a MUTUALLY beneficial relationship. If Mommy is unhappy and stressed, Charlie is going to feel it and react. You need to do what is best for BOTH of you - not just him. He's had a wonderful start and you should be very proud of what you've done for him.

I had a preemie at 34 weeks who was a slow feeder. I pumped and bottled exclusively for the first 8 weeks and then transitioned her to nursing from the breast. She was a real champ and BF'ed until 19 months. I know how hard and awful pumping and bottling is. I wouldn't have lasted if she wasn't doing a good job nursing at 10 or 12 weeks.

I was going to make the same suggestion as Cindy that you should pump just long enough to get a let down and then latch on the little sucker if you are still going to try. That may help. However, if it's causing you so much stress and anxiety, simply enjoy your baby. Lord knows you've earned that!

Posted by: The Good Rachel at Feb 10, 2005 11:25:45 PM

"A clear silicone sombrero." Hee. Awesome. I love the idea of a nipple sombrero. I'd also like to see your face the first time you get a google hit for that phrase. Keep up the great work (both writing and mom-ing), I love your site.

Posted by: Shawna at Feb 10, 2005 11:32:37 PM

Ok, you don't know me, but you'll love me: Mothers Milk Herbal Tea (by Traditional Medicinals - Organic). You can get it in the natural food aisle in most grocery stores or at Tealand.com. I had major anxiety "let down" issues and this is the only thing that helped with milk supply. BTW, when you're engorged, it's muuuuch easier to let down.

Cheers!

Posted by: Lena at Feb 10, 2005 11:41:56 PM

((Hugs)) to you, Julie. I, too, had to have the "permission" to supplement my baby with formula. The nipple shield worked great for us, though. I still supplemented with formula all throughout the BFing experience. Bekah is now on all formula and will be transitioning to whole milk in a few weeks (after her 1st birthday).

You're doing all you can do and that's all anyone can ask. And you do deserve to have happy feeding times with Charlie...just make sure the Guiness doesn't make it into his bottle! :-)

Jenn

Posted by: Jenn in AK at Feb 10, 2005 11:48:01 PM

My little guy did the same thing with breast feeding: two weeks after we got home from the hospital, he decided that this just wasn't for him. He wouldn't have any of it. So for the past six weeks, I've been pumping every three hours to keep up with him.

At first, I felt bad about it, but then I realized that he would have to learn to eat from a bottle anyways due to daycare, and that this freed me from being the only person who could feed him, so I started to feel better about it. He's still getting my milk, which is the important thing, and I still cuddle him when he's being fed, so what's missing except the screaming he was doing when I would try to feed him from the breast? I honestly think we have the best of both worlds going on here!

Posted by: Leigha at Feb 11, 2005 12:03:45 AM

On my daughter's fourth day of life, she turned up her little button nose at my breasts. Wouldn't touch 'em. I schlepped her back to the hospital and saw the LC, who, after an hour of trying to get the kid to latch, said, "You know, there's nothing wrong with formula." But I wanted to breastfeed, so I pumped for as long as I could and then stopped when I couldn't anymore.

Whatever you decide to do, Charlie's going to be just fine. But I do think you should keep those little nipple sombreros around. They could really add a new dimension to this year's Cinco de Mayo celebration.

Posted by: Becki at Feb 11, 2005 12:15:03 AM

i have no opinion on whether or not you should continue trying to breastfeed or not. they're not my tits.

but if you choose not to, let me suggest a source for formula: costco. the giant cans (and you want the giant cans) of the goop run $27 if you go name-brand, but costco has a house brand that's equivalent to enfamil's dha-ara concoction (they're side by side on the shelf, compare the nutrition labels) that's only $17 a can.

this is important: at the height of our formula usage, with three kids under two, we were going through four cans of this shit a week. $40 buys a case and a half of diapers. you may feel flush financially, but please promise me you'll shop around.

by the way: you will not find baby formula (at least the name brand stuff) discounted anywhere, even online. it all costs the same: both tits.

Posted by: RainbowW at Feb 11, 2005 12:20:17 AM

Holy cow! Julie, you're my hero. I can't believe you've been pumping day and night for 10wks now. And for anyone else who has pumped that long or longer - WOW! You're amazing. For the record, I HATE pumping. I really don't know if I'd have been able to keep it up as long as you have. Personally, I am a BF advocate having nursed both of my children for over a year. But my favorite thing about nursing was that it was convenient - ready on demand. If it isn't working out to be convenient for you, then you're missing one of the greatest perks. I mean, think about all the hours you're spending hooked up to a machine when instead you could be cuddling your sweet babe, without the ongoing 'hummmmm' in the background. Whatever you decide, know that you've given breastfeeding a good solid try and that the most important thing is for you and your baby to be happy and together!

Posted by: Nicole at Feb 11, 2005 12:32:10 AM

I was you, except not bf'ing a preemie. Nevertheless, my milk didn't come in so my baby was originally formula fed. I didn't even try bf'ing at the beginning - I pumped instead. So my baby wasn't into the breast at all. When I decided I couldn't continue to pump for so many hours and had to either bf or go to bottle, it was soooo hard to bf. Every day was a battle, and I HATED it. I was so sure that I didn't have enough milk, that we weren't doing it right. I never had that letdown feeling either.

Several things saved me. I found a few friends who told me it sucked at the beginning too - as long as five months, even - and then got better. I found an LC who was on the same level as me. She, too, said that if it was just terrible for me, I should give up. But she urged me to keep going until 9-10 weeks, so that became my goal. I also went to a bf'ing clinic which was run out of a hospital - a "day stay" where an LC watches you bf for a day and works with you on any difficulties. And I took all the milk-enhancing tablets I could find.

And, it DID get better. Not overnight. I made it until 9 weeks, and set a goal to get to 10. Then to 11. I topped up with formula. Now, at 5 months, my son rarely has formula and bf'ing is enjoyable and easy. I don't know how we got here, but now I love it. And I used to HATE it! Not only am I glad I persisted - and I agree, it's not for everyone, and all the doctors I spoke to say that babies thrive just as well on formula - it also taught me an important lesson about motherhood. That things can start out crap and improve, even if you don't believe they will.

I wish you luck. You have to look at the bigger picture for you. If breastfeeding is making you a worse mother because you're stressed and tired and anxious, then let it go. The fact that you want to persist until 12 weeks tells me that you're not entirely ready to let it go. So, just keep an open mind and take it day by day, step by step. It'll be clearer soon, I'm sure.

Posted by: Rachelle at Feb 11, 2005 1:36:13 AM

I think they bury you before you start decomposing in the morgue, don't they? Or embalm you or something hygienic like that.

All I'll say about the breastfeeding is what you know alrady, that getting milk from a bottle is easier than from a breast. Have you ever hand-expressed? It's much gentler on the nipple (you press behind the nipple, where the first milk stores are) so less pain, ergo more likely let-down. You must be at the end of your tether though. I'm sending as much moral support as one can to someone shortly to croak from the use of illegally imported substances...

Posted by: e at Feb 11, 2005 1:42:08 AM

T-I-T! T-I-T!!
It's two against one little B-A-BEE!
He shudders at the udders when it's time for FEEDS --
Full-throttle with a bottle is what he NEEDS!

Who's that mighty little whitey little bloke?
Char-LEE! Char-LEE!
Who's nixin' on the fixin' 'cause there's nothin' that's broke?
Char-LEE! Char-LEE!
Who's the happy little chappy with the milky on his chin?
Char-LEE! Char-LEE!
Who's guzzlin' 'stead of puzzlin' cause it's all win-win?
Char-LEE! Char-LEE!

Speaking as a weakling who has BOTTLE FED
I can tell you it's a swell thing to get out of your HEAD
And do whatever works for your BOY and your HOOTS
And anyone who disagrees can LICK YOUR BOOTS!

YAY!

Posted by: mollie at Feb 11, 2005 2:44:32 AM

Oh my god - $27 per CAN? I should have sold those free samples on ebay instead of bringing them to the food pantry. Twenty seven dollars?
HOW many cans per week per baby? And every ounce the baby drinks today translates into less bf ability tomorrow... I think I'm going to go into the formula business.
Good luck Julie


Posted by: Jean at Feb 11, 2005 2:49:54 AM


You are doing great, and it's time to fully enjoy your baby.

An idea: after some days with satisfying bottle meals, maybe you can try to put Charlie to your breast (after the bottle!), so he can play around. Maybe, if he is already satisfied and not under pressure, he will attach for dessert & play - I think this might help you keep your milk production.

Posted by: marta at Feb 11, 2005 3:35:56 AM

I consider you're doing pretty well, since my two-week-old baby has _never_ been bottle fed, but still hates my breasts. Right from the beginning he seemed to be extremely confused as to what their purpose is. After endless skin contact, sweat and tears, after trying out several mysterious devices designed to trick the baby into understanding that breast=food, after long early morning hours of feeding the baby with a spoon or a cup (in order to avoid mentioned nipple confusion)and then pumping more milk to maintain reserves, an experienced nurse finally brought out the nipple shield. Heaven! My baby finally found the strength to suck more than three times without falling asleep or starting to scream, but continued eating.

I used to be a breastfeeding fanatic before (ha ha, what did I know, I didn't even have kids!), and I'd already declared nipple shields my enemy. However, seems to me that whatever the method of feeding your baby, if you're not happy with the solution, the baby will not be happy either.

All the best to you and Charlie!

Posted by: maybemom at Feb 11, 2005 3:47:24 AM

I have been where you are, I also looked for permission and was finally granted it, and for the first time in 10 weeks I learned to enjoy my son! I would NEVER tell someone to breast feed their child, it's a personal choice made at 2 a.m. when you burst into tears because you know your child needs to be fed and the thought of failing AGAIN kills some small part of you. We didn't make it to 12 weeks pumping, we went to formula as soon as I allowed myself to get over it and our son (even if I do say so myself) is a genius! So no harm, no fowl, and only a healthy little man! I hope you have the same experience I had, and that is to LOVE LOVE LOVE every minute of bottle feeding once you allow yourself to stop feeling guilty!!!

This is huge, it may not feel like it, but it is and you will realize how huge when you don't loath feeding time anymore in a week or so! Congrats!

Posted by: Lissy at Feb 11, 2005 6:37:48 AM

I understand your wanting to give Charlie EBM. I had 33w preemie twins and I'm still EBF or EBM, because of concerns of reflux, rsv and a 4 yo son who brings home every germ from his snot-infested nursery school. I started to chase my tail to have enough bm for the next day, while I went to work. On the assvice of a friend, I finally bought the hands-free nursing bustier (http://shop.nurturecenter.com/noname1.html). It really made pumping much easier, because now I can surf the net easily. It has also improved my supply 50%. I was also properly fitted with a nursing bra, a 38F, cough. Leave it to NYC to have a shop JUST for breastfeeding: http://www.upperbreastside.com, which has a bunch of real supportive nursing bras. I just wasn't getting any support from the mimi maternity or motherhood "bras." I dread to think what 5 months of a shit bra has done to my tits.

I'm sorry that you and Charlie have had such difficulties. I'm glad that you see through the bonding crap of BF. I know plenty of well-bonded mother-child bottle-fed families. You have done more that your best. Good luck!

Posted by: elizabeth at Feb 11, 2005 6:41:44 AM

You have gotten some great suggestions so I won't repeat them. I will just tell you good luck with whatever you decide to do. I am proud of you for setting a pumping goal. Doesn't matter how you get the breastmilk in him as long as he is getting it .. he get's your antibodies which is so vital for him being a preemie and being here during RSV season.

Posted by: Stephanie at Feb 11, 2005 7:04:15 AM

OMG Julie! I am laughing my head off at this entry, but also feel for you because it brought back so many memories from so long ago. I was in nursing school when I had my baby and had to go right back the week after he was born, with my little foam donut to sit on and all. I was determined to breastfeed. Determined! But he got used to the bottle from the daycare provider, and imagine my distress when, after a long, hard day, my boobs full and aching, and my heart longing to be reunited with my newborn baby, he would take one look at me unbuttoning my blouse, and let out a SHRIEK! Don't tell me he was too young at 3 weeks to understand--I know what I saw! And he shrieked and wailed at the very sight of my breasts and throughout the entire feeding. I was so heartbroken because I didn't want to give up breastfeeding in addition to giving up so much else. My Lamaze instructor suggested that I only breastfeed him at night, because she said when a baby is sleepy, he is less resistant. I don't know if that will help you, and you have gotten lots of good advice for if you want to keep trying a little longer, but feeding him only at night DID WORK. He did not resist the breast at night. And, I also tried the trick of pumping first to get the letdown going, and that seemed to help a lot.

In the end, if you just decide to call it a day, I agree with the others--let go of the guilt and just enjoy your baby.

Again, this was an outstandingly hilarious entry!

Posted by: wessel at Feb 11, 2005 7:17:09 AM

Will Charlie use your nipple for comfort sucking after he's finished a bottle feed (of EBM or otherwise)? Might help stimulate your supply better than pumping.

Can't remember what brand pump you are using, but if you don't have variable rate see if you can get one (eg Ameda) as fast rate will help heaps with let down. Oh and don't necessarily believe anyone who tells you let down is a "pleasant tingling sensation". Even after 11m mine still hurts, I am just used to it now.

Posted by: Steph at Feb 11, 2005 7:27:26 AM